Hi! Not to bother you or anything but I’m feeling really down lately because the majority of my friends have the automatic mindset that incest is terrible and always ALWAYS nonconsensual and anyone who ships it is a bad person and complains and I just need a reminder that there are more rationalize people beyond this awful mindset the people I know have


Anon, that is awful. I’m so sorry. That must be so hard for you.

This kind of mindset infuriates me.

incest ≠ abuse: abuse = abuse

Anyone who thinks incest is always non-consensual really needs to take a long hard look at the fact that they’re not thinking critically if they’re so sure about something and cannot even consider possible exceptions.

While there are a lot of ways in which a person can become brainwashed (for lack of a better word), it’s also really disrespectful and takes away a person’s agency to assume that they’re not consenting to something that they say they are consenting to. Like, just maybe there’s a chance they know themselves better than you know them, you know? (I’m talking about adults here, obviously.)

Obviously incest shippers are not bad people for shipping incest! Even if incest definitely was a  bad bad thing, shipping it does not make you a bad person. WE ARE NOT HURTING ANYONE.

And even through all the convoluted arguments about how someone might potentially eventually be hurt through incest shipping, the wrongdoing is not on us.

(Obviously we must do what we can to be respectful.)

fullmarriageequality and rainbowamory are two sites with a lot of great discourse about consensual incest and fighting that kind of mindset.

I’m sorry you have to deal with that, Anon!

I’m not saying you should speak up to your friends or anything – I can understand why you wouldn’t, and given the circumstances I would probably advise against it – but I do have to wonder what effect it would have if someone they respected were to disagree with them.

Hey shipcestuous, it’s very sweet of you to mention my page on your post. 🙂 I’m with you on the points you made in your response (especially the bit about thinking critically). I’d also like to add, anon, that you don’t have to have anyone’s permission or blessing to believe in what you believe. If they took a moment to get the facts and challenge their ignorance, your friends might think differently. But often times people don’t think about these things unless they’re confronted with it in a more immediate sense (like if someone in their own family or a friend they are really close gets involved in that kind of relationship). If your friends are willing, you should give them a good book or something that explores the topic of incest in an alternative way (focusing on consensual acts & relationships). It might compel them to open their mind.

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