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Tywin Lannister (random but relevant post)

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I wanted to make a post about Tywin Lannister. If you’ve watched or read Game of Thrones, you’d know who he is. I’ve only read up to book 4 of the series (Currently reading book 5, and have not watched the show beyond that point yet either) so I can’t speak for anything that might have been revealed past this point in the story, but I just wanted to comment on something.

How is this relevant? Well, although the series doesn’t really go into this (I guess it simply never came up), Tywin Lannister was married to his first cousin. She was the mother of all their kids. I’m not exactly saying Tywin as a person is a good example for any kind of love.. haha (I actually really hate him because of how he treated Tyrion, who is my favourite character, and for how he cared more about image than his family)… but I have to admit that the way George Martin refers to Tywin’s relationship with his wife was always positive and respectful.

In the books, as in the series, the wife (Joanna) had passed away long ago so we never get to see her (again, I don’t know anything beyond book 4, so I don’t know if there are flashbacks). But we hear of her sometimes in certain passages.

Even though we don’t get much of a sense of her personality, it’s clear from the words of those who knew her that she had an influence on Tywin… There was an observation in the story about how Tywin ruled in public but his wife ruled him. And since cousin marriage was integrated into that society, it was never something that caused stigma for them… His brothers had apparently told Cersei that everyone knew that the love between Tywin and Joanna was strong. It’s also to be noted that he didn’t marry again after her death… also that he possibly used to be nicer while she was alive.

Does this make him a good person? No. He was really awful in many ways. And he had suspected that Joanna had been unfaithful to him, but this was because it was his only way of making sense of Tyrion being born a dwarf..not because Joanna had ever given him reason to doubt her.

Sadly because of the lack of gene testing technology in that setting/time, all people have in that world are superstitions and theories, which led to Tywin making the assumptions that he did. I fully believe that Tyrion is Tywin’s son because the guy has Tywin’s qualities, cunning and intelligence (as was noted many times in the books).

From all that was said by others, it seemed the love between Tywin and Joanna was mutual and true. Portrayals like that really show that Gorge Martin is an honest writer, for allowing the idea that not all incest is abusive and not all cousin marriages are about convenience alone (keeping “money in the family”).

Tyrion turned against Tywin in the end because of Tywin’s own cruelty, not because of a defective quality begotten through his lineage.

So, while Tywin himself was a scumbag… his marriage was not portrayed as being tainted or loveless. I’m strangely touched by that.

Thank you. You’ve been so much help. Yes, I live in the U.S. and we’re both adults. In my state you can get up to 10 years and consent is not considered an excuse. Its a 3rd degree felony. Thank you for all the advice and links! This is a lot of great information and I really appreciate it. I’m really so thankful for your help. I really see a future with the them.❤❤❤ – S

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tempchange2:

No problem!

And that is a very harsh sentence indeed. It’s
hard to believe that they’d actually dish out the full punishment but the best
way to protect yourself is to not take chances. I hope those laws get
challenged someday.

EDIT: Sorry, that last suggestion I made (about going outside the state and then coming back after doing stuff) is probably not the best idea. See this post and the comment left on it:

http://marriage-equality.blogspot.ca/2017/08/cousins-changing-states.html

It seems that you may still be prosecuted if someone learns you have been leaving the state to get away from the laws in your state. So unless you are permanently moving away, you may need to think about this too.

I’m a romantic to the core, so I’m the type
to leave everything behind to be with the person I love if I had to. But I know
not everyone can leave their family behind so easily, so it’s really up to you. Sometimes people just need to live their life and let family come around in their own time.

I hope things work out for you. Just remember you’re
not alone.

❤

Love is Love. God bless and good luck ^_^

I love the energy of our shipping community…

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siblingromance:

…but, we shouldn’t be shipping every related character that appear on a screen. Lets celebrate consanguineous relationships when they are merited. Lets not come off as desperate or untactful within our passions.

With you 100% on this sentiment.

I make fan videos as a hobby. I haven’t shipped incest before but I’ve been leaning towards shipping it. The main reason I haven’t before was because I’m very picky with dynamics… I only ship when I feel a personal connection with the characters or storyline.

And I have other, non-incest ideas I still need to get to. But I’d love to make some for consang pairs sometime… just need to decide which ones.

I have no desire to ship all related characters. I don’t think it’s necessary, since there are ones with genuine chemistry out there who should have more of a spotlight (like from Borgia). I respect that people have their fantasies but I prefer when there is chemistry and actual mutuality in the love.

Also, shipping all related characters implies that platonic love is not as valuable or full as romantic love, and I disagree with that. I believe platonic love is just as important, just in a different way and some related characters I prefer to be platonic cause that’s what their dynamic suggests.

Thank you. You’ve been so much help. Yes, I live in the U.S. and we’re both adults. In my state you can get up to 10 years and consent is not considered an excuse. Its a 3rd degree felony. Thank you for all the advice and links! This is a lot of great information and I really appreciate it. I’m really so thankful for your help. I really see a future with the them.❤❤❤ – S

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No problem!

And that is a very harsh sentence indeed. It’s
hard to believe that they’d actually dish out the full punishment but the best
way to protect yourself is to not take chances. I hope those laws get
challenged someday.

EDIT: Sorry, that last suggestion I made (about going outside the state and then coming back after doing stuff) is probably not the best idea. See this post and the comment left on it:

http://marriage-equality.blogspot.ca/2017/08/cousins-changing-states.html

It seems that you may still be prosecuted if someone learns you have been leaving the state to get away from the laws in your state. So unless you are permanently moving away, you may need to think about this too.

I’m a romantic to the core, so I’m the type
to leave everything behind to be with the person I love if I had to. But I know
not everyone can leave their family behind so easily, so it’s really up to you. Sometimes people just need to live their life and let family come around in their own time.

I hope things work out for you. Just remember you’re
not alone.

❤

Love is Love. God bless and good luck ^_^

Hi, I love your blog! :) I want to ask for some advice. What should I do if I love my cousin, but in my state even “attempted incest ” is considered a felony? Is there any way we can have a relationship despite this? Moving is out of the question. Also, my family would never accept it if they found out. I really don’t know what to do. – S

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Hey and Thank you 🙂

As always, before I say anything, I’m
assuming you’re of an age at which you feel you understand the pros and cons of
having this kind of relationship. And also, as I’ve said before, I’m not a
councilor, so I can only offer suggestions based on what I know and my sense
of caution.

The thing that makes your situation unique
is the fact that you don’t have legal protection if anyone were to report you. It’s easy to say just don’t do it, but I don’t know your circumstances… maybe
you don’t see yourself being able to move anytime soon and meanwhile you need
to live your life. If that’s the case and if you are sure you want to take the
legal risk, then the only way to stay safe would be to keep absolute secrecy. You
should make a situation for yourself where you can deny it in a believable way
if anyone accuses or reports you, leave absolutely no trace of being anything
more than friends (especially stuff like social media comments or texts or pics
on your phone).

This also means not telling anyone about your
relationship, including friends. I definitely don’t think you should do anything while
living with other people. Moving out separately maybe or together with the
excuse of it being for “financial reasons” maybe a good idea. And if possible,
you should do this as far away from your family as possible, while remaining in
the same state.

This of course, is only the advice I’d give
if you are absolutely determined to do this under your circumstances. And it
might work for a short-term relationship. But if you desire something long-term
with your cousin, you’re going to have to seriously consider moving to a state
where at least it’s not criminalized. You might’ve already seen this:

http://thefinalmanifesto.blogspot.ca/2015/01/global-map-of-incest-laws.html

It’s a great little map that The Final
Manifesto put together. The States are highlighted in the box at the bottom and
you can see that while some states do not allow marriage between first cousins,
only a very small number of states actually consider consensual sex between
first cousins to be a criminal offense (the ones containing both red AND orange
stripes). So, you wouldn’t even need to move that far… even just moving to the
nearest state connected to where you’re living now would save you the trouble
of having to always be so watchful and anxious. That gives you lots of options…
it’s just a matter of figuring out finances and jobs.

For your current situation, if you do
decide to have a relationship or any kind of sexual contact with your cousin in
your location, you should read this:

https://consanguinamory.wordpress.com/getting-caught-and-how-to-avoid-it/

The people at https://www.facebook.com/groups/369860813120194/ might have
better advice for you since some of them might’ve experienced the same dilemma.
It’s worthwhile to go there as well and make a post.

I don’t know you two well enough to be sure
if it can work for you, but I think that going against the law should be a last
resort option… like if you are on the other side of the world and stuck between places where it’s criminalized. In the US, there are options. So please think
carefully about this, because depending on where you are, you never know how
harsh the punishment for breaking the law might be.

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Lipstick lesbian problems

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This happened to my gf… Some guy kept hitting on her at a party, even though she told him she was in a relationship and her friends kept telling him that she’s loyal.  Not only did he not believe that she was gay, but he didn’t care that she was with someone. I wasn’t there, but I was so pissed to hear that this happened to her… guys like that disgust me. People like that don’t deserve faithful partners in life cause they don’t know how to respect other people’s relationships.

As a transmasculine person, I identify alot with straight guys, so this is not me hating on all straight dudes. I just cannot stand that KIND of guy.