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Please Stop Assuming That All Writers of Incest Want to Write Jaime & Cersei.

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This post is not for any anti. It’s for those who may be capable of growth and sensitivity, who are curious to listen to the side that is often silenced in the discourse around this topic: that is, the topic of writing or shipping consensual incest.

So far, I’ve had a few experiences in which I had mentioned to a friend outside the shipping community that this was a topic I intend to explore in my own writing. I usually chose very carefully who to open up to and generally had neutral reactions. But the two that kind of bothered me, even if they weren’t delivered in a harsh way, was the immediate association that was made with Cersei and Jaime from Game of Thrones.

So I wanted to write this post to express my feelings about this reference which actually makes no sense to me at all, coming from the perspective I come from.

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Scholarly papers/research reports and other good resources on consensual incest (consanguinamory)

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Are you one of those people who ask “WHY??” when you see someone supporting consensual adult incest? Do not ask that question unless you have the balls to deal with the actual answer. If you’re going to be an anti, at least be an informed anti. Human rights deserves more than two seconds of thought. Two seconds of thought makes for a worthless opinion, because that is what is called a knee-jerk reaction. It’s not an argument, it’s not a thoughtful opinion, it’s a reaction based on whim.

Are you someone who is curious about the facts behind a subject that is often presented in a distorted, dehumanized, dishonest way by popular media and society?

The below is a small list I sent to someone after they asked for a list of articles about consensual incest. I want to expand this list later, but for now, here are some scholarly articles and other well-written pieces and videos you can check out.

The content in these articles/resources might be challenging for some people. I still find some of it challenging on a personal/intellectual level. The important thing is to understand that personal disgust/dislike is not a legitimate reason to deny other people their rights or to pass moral judgement on their lives.

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These materials go beyond cousin couples, but the topics discussed provides a big-picture sense of the issues around consanguinamory, and better illuminates where cousin couples fit into this picture, as well as how the stigmatization of other kinds of consensual adult incest affects the way cousin couples are perceived and treated in society. So even though it may seem off-topic for the usual themes of this blog, it is still connected to the themes in important ways.

Here are the materials:

1. English translated version of the German Ethics Council’s report about incest: https://www.ethikrat.org/fileadmin/Publikationen/Stellungnahmen/englisch/opinion-incest-prohibition.pdf

2. Royal Commission report recommending that incest be legalized (this is an old report but very relevant to the topic). There are 4 or 5 PDF files, one for each part of the report. Once the files are on your computer you can open each one and search for the topic. (Part one has the recommendation in brief. The final part has more detailed argument and conclusion): https://apo.org.au/node/34438?fbclid=IwAR21eYklk6bnooiHL_xuXPgH0OOoyEQyJNgTVEUfhF79ImOxR2byz9TFsIo

3. “The Incest Horrible: Delimiting the Lawrence v. Texas” This is one of my top favorite scholarly articles exploring legality. You can download it through the “download” button here: https://repository.law.umich.edu/mjgl/vol23/iss1/4/#.WXf2pMuhqtE.twitter

4. “Incest is Best: The Problem of a Moral Taboo” by Vera Bergelson is another brilliant one. You can download it here: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3228796

5. Rudolf Mandelbaum’s Social Justice Articles: The guy who wrote these wanted to develop his arguments more and make an updated version. It’s worth reading both versions.

Original article: https://medium.com/rudolf-mandelbaum/incest-is-a-social-justice-issue-9a40f69e9ae5

Updated article: https://medium.com/rudolf-mandelbaum/incest-is-a-social-justice-issue-updated-version-4edbee454413

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Art Campaign to Spread Awareness for Consanguinamory

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Someone in the shipping community (corny-tyrannosaurus) is starting an art campaign to spread awareness about consanguinamory. Consanguinamory refers to Consensual romantic and/or sexual relationships between ADULT relatives. This is in no way or form connected to abusive incest.

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Also, this is totally separate from the Shipcest artist list I mentioned earlier in a post, as it’s different in its purpose.  This new art campaign is specifically seeking out people who support or are tolerant of consanguinamory in real life. Basically, allies of consanguinamory. The art itself will be focusing on fictional incest ships. Art includes drawings, fanvideos, fanfiction, etc.

You don’t have to be involved in consanguinamory yourself to participate. But if you are, that’s fine too. If you are a content creator and you want to join in creating art specifically to spread awareness of consanguinamory, please follow the link to see the details.

Sorry, the previous link was broken due to a name change. Here is an updated link. If you’re interested, contact Corny Tyrannosaurus on his Tumblr page:

UPDATE: He had to make a new account. His new account is here: https://cornytyrannosaurus.tumblr.com/

The first step is to simply gather people who think they might be interested in participating. We have already started Phase 2 (where people plan together), but there are still open spaces for several more people to join. Concerns about anonymity and privacy have already been addressed (people can choose to be anonymous for this) but you can ask about it again in the chat group.

So, if anyone out there is a content creator and wants to participate, please see the above link for details and please share this with others you think might be interested.

I’m always happy when I see your blog pop up on my dashboard. I want to thank you. You have made this such a welcoming place for shippers, where all over the rest of the internet and in our culture, we would be looked down on for the things we like, this is a safe place. It just always reminds me im not alone. I think ppl see the idea of incest as something very dirty even in fiction, but I feel like a lot of us are really just romantics, who believe in love equally. But thank you again ♡

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temporarychange1:

Thank you so much, Anon! I’ve been plugging away hard at asks the past couple of days and this was a very rewarding message for me to receive. I really appreciate you taking the time to say this.

I hate so much that we can’t come online and talk freely about the ships we love without having to be afraid of being judged or even attacked. We deserve better!

And I think you’ve struck on a really important point: a lot of us – maybe even most of us around here – are really just romantics. The haters don’t get it.

That last part resonates strongly. Love is Love. [The above is a reblog of a post from Shipcestuous’s Tumblr. The username temporarychange1 was Shipcestuous before the blog was deleted.]

Hopefully this doesn’t sound too hypocritical, but I need to rant for minute. I hate how people assume that you ship ALL incestous or age gapped ships equally because you like one ship of that nature. For example, I’m fine with incest ships that are cousincest and siblingcest and in which both partners are adults or teenagers, but I’m not comfortable shipping parent/child ships or ships in which the younger one is under 15. Likewise, I’m fine with adult/teen ships but adult/child squicks me out

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Wow… this person spoke my mind word for word here. ^_^ ❤ It’s not hypocritical to express preference. Everyone has preferences. Expressing them is just being honest. My OC pair are same-age first cousins (both 15 when they fall in love). They’re mature for their age due to certain life experiences. I love teen romance because you can watch the characters grow into adults.

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shipcestuous:

It’s hard to brush it off when you receive a hate message and I know for many of you it has prevented you from openly blogging or writing fic about what you want to, but here is an important reminder: the person who sent that message is just giving their opinion. They’re not some authority on what is right or good. They don’t have special insight, Jesus doesn’t whisper truths into their ear. They might sound confident – but their confidence doesn’t make them right. People who are really wise ask questions, they don’t act like they know it all, and anyone worth listening to will treat you with respect. Always remember that!

I love the energy of our shipping community…

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siblingromance:

…but, we shouldn’t be shipping every related character that appear on a screen. Lets celebrate consanguineous relationships when they are merited. Lets not come off as desperate or untactful within our passions.

With you 100% on this sentiment.

I make fan videos as a hobby. I haven’t shipped incest before but I’ve been leaning towards shipping it. The main reason I haven’t before was because I’m very picky with dynamics… I only ship when I feel a personal connection with the characters or storyline.

And I have other, non-incest ideas I still need to get to. But I’d love to make some for consang pairs sometime… just need to decide which ones.

I have no desire to ship all related characters. I don’t think it’s necessary, since there are ones with genuine chemistry out there who should have more of a spotlight (like from Borgia). I respect that people have their fantasies but I prefer when there is chemistry and actual mutuality in the love.

Also, shipping all related characters implies that platonic love is not as valuable or full as romantic love, and I disagree with that. I believe platonic love is just as important, just in a different way and some related characters I prefer to be platonic cause that’s what their dynamic suggests.